Hi guys
So I'd like to talk about the way FL's handling of names is done, as I believe it suffers big problems. Let me take a first example with this picture :
Here is the problem : if I rename the Mixer Insert ''Synth'' to any other name, nothing else than this mixer insert name appears to change. In particular the automation clip is no renamed at all... The problem as you can imagine comes when you have a project where a few tenth of automations clips are present, and since naming does not rename things in a meaningful way it is either : you rename everything manually ; or you don't rename anything at all.
As a consequence over time, project are messy, hard to reorganize and sometimes even difficult to keep working on.
Now I'd like to counter right now the argument of ''you have to be organized yourself'' as it doesn't hold at all.
Indeed, for the first clips you make, you can rename easily, but one has to be really stubborn to think that over the course of a project, not many things gets changed, modified, deleted, etc. And every single modification of a name has to be applied to ALL the corresponding objects for you to hope to stay organized... it is painfully painful (yes, painfully painful) and makes you feel any creative modification of your project will end up in a crazy reorganizing task.
But since pointing a problem without offering a solution is not really constructive here is a possibility :
Let me explain :
Here the clips are generated with what I call "Name fields". Those name field are taking the name of the object they are attached/linked to in a dynamic manner. The idea is that renaming the mixer insert will create an event that will allow the transmission of this new name information to all the clips that have this name field in use. As a consequence : all the clips get renammed accordingly. No matter if it is 1 clips or 1000.
Practical example :
Starting point :
(name of the clip, as it is with STATIC naming) --> Synth - Par. EQ2 - Band 5 Frequency
(name of the clip, as it I propose with LINKED naming) --> <MixerInsertName> - <FXName> - <ParamName>
If I rename the mixer insert to "Lead", then in the current FL naming scheme the automation clip will remain the same, which is :
Synth - Par. EQ2 - Band 5 Frequency
--> this name is not relevant anymore = problem
With the linked name technique I propose, since the mixer insert name changes, the <MixerInsertName> field will change accordingly, and thus the clip name becomes :
Lead - Par. EQ2 - Band 5 Frequency
--> this now name makes perfect sense and help keep the playlist organized and clear
What do you think about this idea IL ?
IL devs, we need to talk
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there might be different viewpoints since every...
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No naming convetion can solve a p...
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The first parameter from which you have created...
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sure, the nicest way is creating a lovely templ...
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For multi-target clips, it might just be easier...
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How about just Name - Target (plugin) - Paramet...
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why should they all have the same name ? i dont...
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So, this is too much for me to read. But, I wi...
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They know. It's figuring out what works and mak...
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ReedIndeed wrote: First you rename the mixer in...
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For me, it´s a clear NOOOO!!! to all this "auto...
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this is only one special case so you'll need to...
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That's not for us to do, we as the users just n...
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btw, as milestone 1, would be nice if the hover...
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einfachfelix wrote:also a macro "auto rename au...