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Richard Travers
Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:20 pm

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sampling in fl ~ pros & cons

Some cool features and some hang ups . .

Once a sample has been treated with effects or EQ etc via the mixer or on the playlist, this sample, it's treatments, equalization, effects and all it's automation are basically lost! because they cannot be saved or browsed easily as one file IMO. If your working with samples it's vital that your'e able to (preview/Load your "treated" samples, immediately play them on your keyboard to see if they work with your project). Unfortunately in FL all this data is effectively locked to the project it was created in, almost irretrievably infact, the only option open to you being that you can go through the extreamly lengthy process of loading all the separate files (automation clips, audio clips controller data, note data) and re-link all of them, (all your work) on the playlist back to it's respective plugins/mixer channels etc. This is extreamely confusing and only after all this will you be able to preview the work that you have done on your sample, and then be able to decide weather you want to use it in a project.

The workaround's are just that unfortunately ie Directwave & the FL sampler, these will not in any way come close to offering you anything like as much functionality as the playlist/mixer combined, by way of effects, envelopes, equalization or their gui's, so it's back to the playlist for your samples . . .and then what exactly?

It sends shivers down my spine just thinking of the months of work the hours of sample treatment that I have done which is now lost in this mess of a fileing system,, it is very depressing indeed.

So whats the solution . . it is sadly that you have to look elsewhere for a sampler, maybe something like Kontakt. and resign FL studio to the simple role of just sequencing, hosting plugins and mixing . . . certainly not sampling anymore!

My Question is: Given that my samples are going to have to be hosted within a separate vst like Kontakt, what similar problems am I going to encounter, for example: to what extent am I going to be inconvenienced by having to change parameters within an external sampler in comparison to working with them solely in FL? Can Kontakt host other vst's like Your favorite comb filter for example?

I hate to gripe at you guys (Image-line) but you could have provided FL with a decent sampler couldn't you? How about something that can also host vst effects? that would be good.
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Kemmler
Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:33 pm

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I think your issue is that you are conflating F...

Richard Travers
Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:51 pm

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Kemmler wrote:I think your issue is that you ar...
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evilwill
Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:55 pm

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having a sampler load vsts doesn't sound like t...

nucleon
Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:13 pm

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I kind of work differently so its rarely a prob...

Richard Travers
Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:22 pm

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evilwill wrote:having a sampler load vsts doesn...
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Kemmler
Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:09 pm

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you can basically do what you're talking about ...

Richard Travers
Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:26 pm

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nucleon wrote:I kind of work differently so its...

VariKusBrainZ_
Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:45 pm

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you can do this in Ableton Live.

FLFr3ak
Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:09 pm

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Try Tu2 - The Tuareg 2.5 http://www.brambos.c...

davidbuhau
Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:21 am

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you can "bake" and export your samples... but i...

Richard Travers
Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:26 pm

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All good points, but Look. . . I want fl studio...
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lonewolf_
Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:38 pm

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The best suggestion I can give you is to SHUT T...

Richard Travers
Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:11 pm

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You idiot you cant even spell properly lol. L...
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nucleon
Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:01 pm

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or have to fork out another £250 Dont know ...

mw
Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:31 pm

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exporting/rendering your samples is your best b...

e.g.:
Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:16 am

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You are making what we in the behavioral health...

Richard Travers
Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:24 am

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pah . . social workers they're he least mental...
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e.g.:
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:03 am

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Ah, well written. Your last post was so much mo...

Richard Travers
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:12 am

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Oh, well thats different then, please disregard...

e.g.:
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:23 am

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Wow, I had read your reply before you edited it...

e.g.:
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:36 am

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I'm a bit confused about your need to use the e...

Richard Travers
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:44 am

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behavioral psychologists are just as bad. But ...

e.g.:
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:55 am

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What version and edition of FL Studio are you u...

Richard Travers
Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:01 am

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e.g.: wrote:I'm a bit confused about your need ...
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Richard Travers
Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:03 am

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e.g.: wrote:What version and edition of FL Stud...

mjd34
Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:27 am

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maybe an easier process for your adapted workkf...

mw
Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:54 am

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Wusik has a vst plugin that saves patches out o...

Richard Travers
Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:04 pm

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mw wrote:Wusik has a vst plugin that saves patc...

mw
Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:02 pm

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check it out here: http://www.wusik.com/w/wvm.h...


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