Looking for touch monitors for performance mode

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gol
 
Nov 13, 2011 (22:31)
Multi-Touch Testing:

If you are interested in testing FL 10.6 with multitouch, you need to be running it under Windows 7 (or higher) and have a multi-touch monitor (dual-touch minimum). Tablet or giant screen, it should work fine on everything. For the setup, see the screenshot. You may not need it if your monitor is big enough, as FL mostly works without it, that setting enlarges hot zones so it depends on the size of the monitor (vs the size of your fingers).



The FL 10.6 public beta is/will be touch-enabled, so just install it & give your feedback about the multi-touch aspect in this thread.

Manual section on Multi-touch here.

Only FL itself & some plugins have been optimized for multitouch. In FL, most controls are dual-touch (through gestures), while the playlist in performance mode is fully multi-touch. 2 plugins are fully multitouch, Harmor & Harmless, those allow multiple knobs to be tweaked at the same time.

Related to the stuff being done for the performance mode:

While supporting clip-triggering devices is important, especially for those who already own them, the fact is that the playlist itself works better to trigger clips, as everything is on-screen, while an external device will at worst display low-colored buttons through slow MIDI, at best named buttons through wifi.

But triggering on-screen clips has 1 big limitation: the mouse. So we're looking for a cheap alternative to controllers, which would mean a monitor meeting these requirements:

-any size, but tablet-sized preferred. It would be painful to trigger clips on a desktop monitor, unless it's placed horizontally. A second, tablet-sized monitor however is handy for this, and would hold the playlist.

-any kind of input, although USB preferred if it exists (there are small USB monitors)

-<$300, as that's the average price of similar controllers (as we're looking for something that we could advise buying for clip-triggering)

-quality of image doesn't matter a single bit if it's a tablet-sized one (as it would only be used for this)

-quality of the multitouch is important. There seems to be quite some technologies, not just resistive/capacitive but also infrared & surface acoustic wave.
This kind of use doesn't "really" need multitouch as in "multiple moving cursor", but requires multi-click. Meaning that single touch is ok if pressing 3 fingers at the same time would send 3 very fast mouse clicks. If this isn't possible, we'll have to use the Win7 multitouch SDK for true multitouch support.
Even though it's also a matter of software, capacitive ones have proven that they could be used for this. For the rest I don't know.

So if anyone here has experience with a cheap multitouch screen that could be used for this? Because of the market, of course most of the ones sold are tablets, with their own OS, etc, but as long as they can't be used as real monitors, it's not acceptable. The existing software to turn a tablet into a second monitor seem way to slow & unresponsive (& also rely on wireless connection, which can be seen as a pro or a con). Custom connection with a tablet involves software to write, limited use (passing clip names at best), wireless latency & unpredictability. So IMHO the best is really a side monitor, or of course a tablet running a real Windows, if there exists cheap ones that are powerful enough to run FL.
We've found several monitors but not the holy grail yet.
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AgentD
 
Nov 13, 2011 (23:04)
Hi Gol,since i'm also looking for a cheap 10&qu...

gol
 
Nov 13, 2011 (23:30)
I found also this:http://www.ebay.de/itm/MEDION...

gol
 
Nov 13, 2011 (23:54)
I would also like to know how well single-touch...

AgentD
 
Nov 14, 2011 (0:18)
But wouldn't it be possible to move faders on t...

rolmo
 
Nov 14, 2011 (0:27)
Have you tried the ipad with the 'Remote Deskt...
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kahlheins
 
Nov 14, 2011 (1:01)
I know about some nice ones used for Traktor be...

Tygron
 
Nov 14, 2011 (1:53)
Gol, when you say tablet do you mean these new ...

m4rt3z
 
Nov 14, 2011 (3:15)
Read before posting people!He wants a multi tou...

NTO
 
Nov 14, 2011 (3:37)
Wish list time!First up on a Google for 'em...h...

trancerspacey
 
Nov 14, 2011 (11:43)
Ok, it's not a touch-screen, but I think this i...

Rational
 
Nov 14, 2011 (15:22)
Hey Guys!You have to check out Touchmi! These g...

gear==talent
 
Nov 14, 2011 (22:24)
iPad VNC client with VNC server on the PC. Work...

reve
 
Nov 16, 2011 (0:44)
I bought a Iiyama T2250MTS about a year ago. Ve...

gol
 
Nov 16, 2011 (2:12)
But wouldn't it be possible to move faders on t...

gol
 
Nov 16, 2011 (2:16)
I use the screen as a secondary monitor and hav...

gol
 
Nov 16, 2011 (2:27)
iPad VNC client with VNC server on the PC. Work...

gear==talent
 
Nov 17, 2011 (6:09)
gol wrote:iPad VNC client with VNC server on th...


gol
 
Nov 17, 2011 (18:21)
Monome?yes, because that's a well known MONITOR...

Synesthesia
 
Nov 17, 2011 (21:26)
gol wrote:Monome?yes, because that's a well kno...

mikecatt
 
Nov 29, 2011 (17:37)
FL is being featured on this company's products...

jmc
Site Admin
Dec 30, 2011 (22:36)
These guys contacted me & suggested trying ...

jmc
Site Admin
Dec 31, 2011 (9:04)
Hm. A bit expensive though :Well, there are two...

Kemmler
 
Jan 18, 2012 (22:34)
this is late, but Monoprice has a $150 15"...

Tom Ellard
 
Jan 20, 2012 (6:28)
This kind of thing?http://www.jaycar.com.au/pro...


gol
 
Feb 18, 2012 (15:50)
This kind of thing?it doesn't tell the type of ...

L. Scott Knight
 
Feb 18, 2012 (20:14)
So Gol's post about the MIMO has me wondering i...

vlab
 
Feb 20, 2012 (6:13)
by L. Scott Knight » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:14 pmSo...

gol
 
May 29, 2012 (8:20)
Looking for a couple of people who own a multi-...

CosmicOrgasm
 
May 29, 2012 (13:38)
I have access to a 4 points screen ( displax ov...

gol
 
May 30, 2012 (11:26)
I have access to a 4 points screen ( displax ov...


CosmicOrgasm
 
May 30, 2012 (17:15)
Cool. I'll test as much as i can and make video...

ErotiCore SteNch
 
May 30, 2012 (17:22)
i have been looking for a touchscreen overlay e...

CosmicOrgasm
 
May 30, 2012 (18:39)
My friend is developping a non expensive pverla...

ErotiCore SteNch
 
May 30, 2012 (20:38)
CosmicOrgasm wrote:My friend is developping a n...

vlab
 
May 30, 2012 (21:00)
I had a gret deal from Dell for a, 21 inch IPS...

gol
 
Jun 04, 2012 (23:29)
I bought a Iiyama T2250MTS about a year ago. Ve...

Bademantel
 
Jun 16, 2012 (8:46)
http://www.leapmotion.com/

Hikoku Nakagawa
 
Jul 04, 2012 (13:55)
cheap touch panel kit herehttp://www.aliexpress...

durkk
 
Jul 04, 2012 (14:38)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxvQw0GVH2cI ha...

BlouAap
 
Jul 04, 2012 (14:54)
Why not just make an app for iOS/Android ? They...

delinquent
 
Jul 04, 2012 (15:09)
I have a HP Touchsmart 600 (http://gizmodo.com/...

BalancedScience
 
Jul 04, 2012 (15:21)
I have a Dell Inspiron Duo Multi Touch Screen. ...

BalancedScience
 
Jul 04, 2012 (15:32)
BalancedScience wrote:I have a Dell Inspiron Du...

gol
 
Jul 04, 2012 (20:40)
I have the Dell ST2220T, starting testing today...

vlab
 
Jul 04, 2012 (20:51)
I also have a Dell ST2220T...I have quite some ...

BalancedScience
 
Jul 04, 2012 (21:39)
gol wrote:I have the Dell ST2220T, starting tes...

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