Ableton 12 interestingly copying many stuff from FL. Ok now what?

[D3Mens]

Just found this one, worth sharing:


New Midi tools integrated into Ableton's piano roll + ability to use Max4Live to create your own. No python knowledge needed.

I admire how all their plugins and features are just "ready to go" which usually means being very limited (see Distructor's filters or all this flood of vintage plugins able to do only what their real counterparts were already doing 50years ago, which also means being basically exclusively dedicated to specific genres rather than being conceived for everyone)
but here instead they feel like they are meant in particular for sound designers while retaining extreme simplicity and ease of use for everyone else.

The distortion plugin for example:
-Mono mode/multiband/mid/side/etc...
-modulation matrix built-in with multiLFOs that can modulate themselves
-internal feedback which can be mapped to scales (!!!!)
All already in one place. No need to connect cables to dozens of plugins used as single basic modules whenever you need to just make an effect "stereo" or simply add an LFO. On top of this you also have to make your own interface to be able to control it.


Nice also that a Daw doesn't have to rely on customer's input to create new features (aka Midi scripting):
Providing a coding language with just knobs and checkboxes available only for those that know Python isn't the same as providing many integrated tools each with it's own specific GUI + if needed there's also a coding language (Max4Live) which doesn't even need coding knowledge to be used.

The moment FL releases new features I feel excited. Untill I realize how much better and more complete these could be made before being released.

IL really needs 20 times more devs able to work on FL's code (actual FL code, not features built on top). I really hope it's not just Reflex and Shinyless, not because they suck, you are awesome guys, but the amount of work needed for the current standards cannot be covered by so few people. Even if it's 10/15 of you working on it, you're too few.
FL needs some serious glueing under the hood.
Can't wait for the new Playlist and Mixer.
You have all my support and frustration.

[vertibration]

D3Mens wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:50 pm Just f...

[hydragenflstudio]

The wheel has come full circle. The topic of th...

[Hevy (IL)]

Why do you think that they do not rely on custo...

[vertibration]

Hevy (IL) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:50 pm Why ...

[Dizzler]

Hevy (IL) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:50 pm I'm...

[lbizzy(OVA9000)]

funny because reading the comments on different...

[vertibration]

lbizzy(OVA9000) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:19 p...

[boingy99]

The MIDI additions are them pulling in the best...

[Sinistrail]

My Twitter feed is divided between "ABLETON HAS...

[boingy99]

I use a lot of MIDI tools across a number of DA...

[lupp7]

PLS Imageline the follow in Scale feat is awes...

[Caine]

lbizzy(OVA9000) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:19 p...

[Nogyoff]

boingy99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:35 pm The M...

[vertibration]

I like the old Ableton, this new version is jus...

[Omnifold]

I'm still trying to master 3x Osc before I thin...

[pararealist]

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[fde101]

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[pararealist]

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[ZipSnipe]

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[Omnifold]

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[Nogyoff]

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[Caine]

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[luvthedogs]

Ave McCree think Imageline is ahead (even with ...

[vertibration]

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[Alphons]

luvthedogs wrote: Ave McCree think Imageline is...

[Scott]

Can't we all just get along ? What I like abo...

[clint]

I'll just keep using FL Studio I suppose..

[vertibration]

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[NextDAW]

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[kitekrazy]

Omnifold wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:27 am I'm s...

[kitekrazy]

Well they haven't copied the ever daring free l...

[kitekrazy]

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[kitekrazy]

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[boingy99]

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[Alphons]

boingy99 wrote: Studios don't use ProTools beca...

[Dan-CF]

I've been spending half my time with Ableton la...

[Shruard7]

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[pararealist]

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[DjNotSo]

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[Trancit]

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[D3Mens]

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[DjNotSo]

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[Hevy (IL)]

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