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Paolo
Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:47 am

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Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

This is a template project with routings prepared for audio interface's inputs and outputs. Empty channel rack, just one Sampler instance. Automatic plugin delay compensation is enabled.

1. I have two plugins in my Master channel for testing purposes (FabFilter Pro-Q 2 and Molot). These plugins have total latency of 322 samples. (No plugins in other mixer channels)

2. on "Insert 100" channel I have no plugins, but just output to audio interface. None of the other channels are routed to this.

3. Now the weird part: When I renamed the channel to "V-Verb Pro B Send" as in the screenshot, the channel gets latency compensated by the same amount as Master. When I remove the custom channel name (replace with the default), latency compensation is removed!

In this situation I don't want this channel to be latency compensated, because it is a send to a hardware effect unit.
One of the other channels acts as the return channel for this FX unit, and any possible latency is compensated there on it's way to Master.

4. I have three additional channels with no routings in or out, just outputs to audio interface. These have the same problem. If I remove channel's name and icon, the (unwanted) latency compensation is removed.


So the issue in a nut shell: A mixer channel without routings (in or out) gets latency compensated by Master channel's latency if it has a custom name or icon.

I haven't tested the new beta with improved PDC (sorry!), but I hope this issue has not creeped there! :)
(And I hope it would be possible to have un-compensated channels for routing the audio to hardware and back!)

Sorry if this is known issue

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FL Studio 12.5.1 build 165
Windows 10
Intel i5

Debug console:

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Mixer track map: 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,1,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,2,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,3,4,5,6,7,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,0
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Mixer threading map rebuilt: 5 layer(s)
   Layer 1: 1 unit(s)
      Unit 1: track(s) 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20
   Layer 2: 1 unit(s)
      Unit 1: track(s) 1,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33
   Layer 3: 1 unit(s)
      Unit 1: track(s) 2,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46
   Layer 4: 1 unit(s)
      Unit 1: track(s) 3,4,5,6,7,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103
   Layer 5: 1 unit(s)
      Unit 1: track(s) 0
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PDC updated. Latency on master: 6.71ms.
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audiosabre
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:01 pm

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Re: Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

A workaround in 12.5.1 & earlier would be t...
Last edited by audiosabre on Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Paolo
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:12 pm

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Re: Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

Ok thanks, mate. I had no idea about the name ...

audiosabre
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:19 pm

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Re: Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

No worries, it's not all that intuitive that it...

audiosabre
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:49 pm

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Re: Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

Just for posterity; these things will make a mi...

Lachra
Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:02 pm

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Re: Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

audiosabre wrote:Just for posterity; these thin...

audiosabre
Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:13 pm

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Re: Weird PDC issue (FL 12.5.1 build 165)

Colouring doesn't do anything. You don't have t...


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