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Dan-CF
Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:00 pm

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TheDichotomist wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:30 pm
Dan-CF wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:08 pm
PPQ here PPQ there... clearly this issue needs to be fixed 8)

Please Uncle Scott :D Please consider this, for all of us, even if some of us don't know what's best for them :)

Thanks
Begging won't make them get to it any faster. . . And PPQ isn't necessarily the core problem behind FL's CPU usage. . .
Alright then let's try the professional way. Didn't do this before because I thought this was going to be an easy pitch.

Listen up peeps, outside EDM some people like to make grooves with a human feel, as much as possible. Sure the music can be done without it but may I also ask you not to add that 3rd bass layer to save CPU? I don't think it's necessary. Most likely you won't.

Here's something simple I did in 20 sec for demonstration purposes that shows what I am talking about.

Anyway here it is:

1. Here's a video of FL at 960 PPQ. Used the 16_loose feel quantize option on the piano roll to give everything a swing. It's a little erratic maybe and would probably be more obvious on a finished track.

Did a little manual strumming on the first chord of every bar, made sure it's noticeable enough so you can tell the upper notes come a little late. Also, everything else has 50% swing from the 16_loose feel groove
FL 960 PPQ.mp4
FL 960 PPQ.jpg
2. Here's a video of FL at 96 PPQ. Same as above. You will hear it noticeably reduces the groove to either late or quantized notes - which could sound a little too straight if you're after a certain feel. Maybe it sounds better... but keep in mind this is for demonstration purposes and in music such an argument doesn't exist as fact.
FL 96 PPQ.mp4
FL 96 PPQ.jpg
Believe me, I can hear the difference even between 384 and 960... enough to let me not get what I want the way I want it. But I am willing to go for 384 for a while until some sense has been made about this 'issue'.

I'm happy to share any perspective I have but also find it hard to believe anyone here had to argue against me for asking for such a thing. The only argument I could have accepted would have been 'this is a private company, they have some core standards from the 80's, you can take it or leave it.' I would have accepted that and used FL Studio until I feel my time would be worthwhile elsewhere.. but I would wish I would use FL for good. If it wasn't for a few things I wouldn't even think of leaving it.

If you like quantized or fake-humanized music that's your thing. A lot of music sounds great like that. But most or all DAW developers decided to give more resolution on the matter of PPQ for the obvious reasons. You know core reasons, that have to do with making music on a professional level.

My argument is 384 should be the bare minimum for any producer. I'm talking bare minimum. With 960 being average.

Now I cannot use 960 anymore, even in 2021, because it's eating my computer alive. I have never ever finished a track without severe underruns long before reaching even the mixing stage, so yes I do have the right to voice my concern about this.

Hopefully this little, basic presentation could make you have some sense. I can continue with 96 and make music but I don't really want to repeat myself as to why high PPQ is better. My concern is still more CPU usage at sensible PPQs than PPQ itself.
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Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:57 pm

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