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str3z
Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:08 pm

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Thanks for fighting the good fight Dan. This is an issue that comes up a lot with tech focused guys vs music focused guys.
They will claim there is no difference because they aren't musicians and don't understand how to interpret the feel of something. Just like that ancient video in the audio engine myths thread where some dude on his dell laptop is telling you it all sounds the same because the sin waves look the same in a digital representation.
It took me a long time to "get it" too and I was annoyed by all the old timers telling me how they could hear how something was an FL song vs a DP or Cubase song. I chalked it up to butthurt elitism and them trying to keep young guys down. The problem was exacerbated when they used what I considered "vague" language like "feel" and "vibe" to describe what they weren't hearing. Timing however is incredibly important and the same song with 96ppq timing will not elicit the same response from the listener because the groove will always be slightly off and inhuman.
I kind of gave up arguing for anything like this because it seemed like a futile effort especially when people still think all daws sound the same because they null tested a drum loop.
You either get it or you don't. People do hear it, thats why there was been resurgence in older "crappy" gear and older workstations like the earlier MPCs. People are buying hardware because of the timing and feel of playing the instrument and how the internals react slightly differently each and every time. However, they bring up stuff like "fatness and warmth" to describe this because of their lack experience and exposure to zeitgeist terminology.
The larger issue at play here is poor CPU optimization. Its frustrating seeing FL redline in CPU and then looking at Activity Monitor and seeing only 15-20% of my processing power being used. I read all of the explanations as to why this is but it all comes off as excuses because this was the same issue 10 years ago. "You just don't understand how the technology works" is a cop out non-answer because I don't need to understand any of that to see how perpetually upgrading to better equipment is having little to no effect on processing power being used by the program itself. There is no more room for "just get a better CPU" or "it's because you don't have a dedicated GPU" because the specs I have today (and the specs available in general) are so far beyond what was suggested in past to alleviate these issues. This isn't a uniquely FL issue either but the issues are much more pronounced in FL when working on any semi large project.

b086
Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:04 pm

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Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:22 pm

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shroomhead_one
Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:33 am

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SuperTRev
Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:51 am

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Nogyoff
Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:14 am

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str3z wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:08 pm You eit...

N_K
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:13 am

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Dan-CF
Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:04 pm

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Dan-CF
Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:14 pm

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You guys might want to check out a couple of th...

Dan-CF
Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:19 pm

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Nogyoff
Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:31 pm

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Nogyoff
Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:57 pm

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As far as timing goes, I don't think it makes a...

shroomhead_one
Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:06 pm

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Dan-CF
Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:12 pm

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Anyone care to elaborate on the sound quality i...

N_K
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:59 pm

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Nogyoff
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:31 pm

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Dan-CF
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:41 pm

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Dan-CF
Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:11 pm

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N_K
Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:15 pm

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Nogyoff
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N_K
Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:44 pm

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shroomhead_one
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:02 am

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Nogyoff
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:11 am

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N_K
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:35 am

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Nogyoff
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shroomhead_one
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:59 am

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WhiskeyPriest
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:25 am

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#1 has the most obvious transients in the strum...

N_K
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:57 am

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WiseLabs
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:18 am

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here's my 2 cents, a different pattern sounds d...

N_K
Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:23 am

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Dan-CF
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:10 pm

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I could tell apart the notes in #1 with the hig...

Nogyoff
Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:12 pm

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NFL
Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:52 pm

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Small timing differences: in some circumstances...

Nogyoff
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:22 pm

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N_K
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:23 pm

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Nogyoff
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:41 pm

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N_K
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:43 pm

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Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:04 am

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Dan-CF
Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:52 pm

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