Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

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dgv
Sun May 18, 2025 1:52 pm

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Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

Hi!
I noticed that my automations were not working for mute/solo if there was any high latency plugin in the mixer that is sending audio as sidechain.
This makes it impossible to properly mix with automations when using plugins that have latency.
I upload this silly example using Frequency Splitter for adding artificial latency.

In the project I link 1 automation to:
  • mix level and mute/solo of first fx slot in the second mixer track.
  • mute/solo of the second fx slot in the second mixer track with no plugin loaded.

Please follow the following steps to reproduce:
1. Open the project.
2. Make sure that both the Playlist and mixer track 2 are visible.
3. Press play.

What happens:
mix level behaves as expected, but 1st slot mute/solo automation is erractic (wrong values) the first time it plays. If you let the bar play again, mix will work as expected again, but mute/solo will always be off forever. 2nd slot mute/solo behaves as expected too.

What should happen:
mute/solo automation works as with mix level and 2nd slot mute/solo.

What else:
-It seems to happen only at samplerate = 44100 Hz and 'Compensate automation' = on in Mixer settings.
-It is not neccesary to press play to see the wrong automated value, you can also click on any part of the timeline to force an update of the value.

Conclusion:
If a mixer channel receives a sidechain signal with added latency, automation of mute/solo of any slot with plugins loaded will be erratic.
mutesolo.jpg
Mute-solo Automation.flp
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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 4:47 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

I make mistakes.
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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:01 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

Try again. Sorry.
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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:05 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

Really?keyviz_UkUF1Mpo4f.mp4
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dgv
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:07 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

JLAB wrote: ↑Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:05 pm Really?ke...
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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:11 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

That's not the same project I can even see by y...
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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:15 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

dgv what is your audio settings? keyviz_TSvWCC...
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dgv
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:19 pm

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JLAB wrote: ↑Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:11 pm That's no...
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dgv
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:28 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

JLAB wrote: ↑Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:26 pm That is s...
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FaBianB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:40 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

ok def. there's something wrong there.
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FaBianB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:32 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

dgv wrote: ↑Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:04 pm FaBianB wr...
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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:19 pm

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JLAB
Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:48 pm

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

Ooh, sorry about that, so do I. But I am epical...
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siris0
Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:29 am

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

dgv wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 7:36 am JLAB wrote...
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JLAB
Sun Jun 08, 2025 9:12 am

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Re: Automating mute/solo not working for sidechain at high latency

dgv wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 7:36 am JLAB wrote...
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dgv
Sun Jun 08, 2025 9:44 am

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JLAB wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 9:12 am The GUI h...
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JLAB
Sun Jun 08, 2025 1:39 pm

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dgv wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:15 am JLAB wrot...
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